KEETERBARN CORNER FARM

We raise our animals just as God intended. Completely free range, Grass fed animals. All natural, without the use of chemicals, hormones or steroids

I am not a vet. I am a goat farmer. This is a collection of information that I use and other goat producers also use..I hope you find it useful.

This is a list I have collected and by all means is not complete I hope it can help you. It is not in order.

ILLNESSREMEDY
AnemiaRed Cell a tablespoon or 15cc administered oraly daily-into their feed and B12 1 - 2 cc
white eyes
pale toungeFrom the Barn Bible (goat medical info v2.pdf in the files section):
droupy tail
no energyAnemia can be treated with molasses. Old fashioned blackstrap molasses
harsh furhas as much iron as many of the over the counter treatments, is safe,
thinand has most of the constituents to help the goat with energy, and to
feel better. Vitamin B12 2cc IM is recommended. Healthy goats produce
their own B vitamins, but when they are sick, the rumen bacteria that
perform this function are dead. B12, Cyanocobalamine is the center of
the molecular structure of the red blood cell. Red cells can not be made
in the bone marrow without it.
We usually administer 1-2cc of iron and we provide it orally every other
day with the dialy molassis drench. After the first B-12 shot, we also
put the B-12 in the drench. Lastly, we are usually providing Calf Pac
at this point because the rumen must get going to produce its own B
vitamins.
Coni 5/31/2009Injectable iron: pig iron, called Ferrodex or iron dextran. 1cc per 100lbs
IM once a week, and B12 2cc IM twice a week. Calf pac to improve digestion
and absorption of iron
One last thought, I found that if we get a script for B-12, it is 3000
mcg. If we buy it at Co-Op, it is 1000 mcg. The last bottle of
B-Complex I got was only 25 mcg of B-12. It is my understanding that
the 2cc prescribed above is probably the 3000 mcg B-12 so if you get the
1000 mcg, you will need to triple the dosage to 6cc.
My receipt is drench in syringe;  1.5cc Fortified B12, 1 tabspoon. Red Cell, 2.5grams dry probiotic, mix with;
Runs/Diarrhea1teasp.salt, 1/2teasp.soda, 4tabsp.corn syrup, 3-5cc Neomycine in 1/2gal warm water  (5th day normal stool)
mix left overs in the runs water, be sure they drink at least 1 gallon a day or more all day long
15cc Pepto-Bismol
B-12B12 can be be given oral ( injectable product) at the same rate:2cc/100lbs.
mix it with Molasses 8 oz, and a scoop of Calf Pac, and enough water to get it to go through a drench gun
SCOURS
B-12If you are going to give B12, you need to give the
Fortified B12..... .it has a higher dosage of the vitamins
needed and will work more quickly..... you can get it on the
internet at Jeffers or other sources, but I cannot find it at
any feed store or TSC...they all carry regular B12 complex
which is not strong enough for anemia or vitamin build up
  
Bloat10 cc CD antitoxin, 15 cc pepto, 1 cc banamine, 6 cc penicillin orally
expanded stomachat night give probiotic
slushy
penicillin I gave orally to help stop the growth of the bacteria that was causing the bloat
  
Bottle Jaw1cc Ivermectin per 50lbs
Swelling under neck2 cc Iron Dextran and 4 cc Fortified B Complex for three days in a row, 
then every other day for three treatments
then Ivermectin again
  
Enterotoxemia:5-7cc oral or injectable penicillin
5-7cc SQ of penicillin
7cc CD antitoxin SQ
20cc oral of Pepto Bismol
1cc/100lbs IM Banamine
Repeat CS antitoxin and SQ Penicillin the next day, then restart the rumen
with calf pac
  
Magic1 part Mollasses, 2 part Kayro, and 1 part corn oil (25cc for adult goats) treatment for anemia.
  
VACCINATING CDT
Vaccinate 3mo2cc of CD/T, booster 30 days later, then yearly.
CL VaccineRegister's Goat & Sheep Supplies now has Case-Bac
Vaccinate does before vaccinate 2-4 weeks before kidding it allows for the maximum transfer of antibodies to the colostrum.
kidding
Calvary 9 vaccine1cc Cavalry 9 for the initial vaccine, 1cc three weeks later

for the booster and 1cc booster annually after that

**cavalry 9 vaccinates for 9 of the Clostridial organisms. Tetanus,
Enterotoxemia, Blackleg, etc. I have had as good results with it as
Covexin-8 without the bumps.

Vaccinating Kidswhen does have not been vaccinated 2cc of CD Antitoxin and 3cc of Poly Serum every 3 weeks until they
were 12 weeks old and then we vaccinated them with Covexin 8 and boostered
in 21 days and then yearly
  
Not eatinggive 1-2cc vitiman B-12
Drench with molasses, 50% Dextrose
  
Show goats16-18% complete feed with no grass hay or grazing
  
Runny eyesfew drops of LA 200 in the eye
PINK EYEpink eye is Coni's formula:
10cc of Dexamethasone
10cc of Gentamycin
10cc of Serile Water
Clean a small spray bottle and put the ingredients in it. Shake. After use,
keep in refrigerator.
Clean the area of eye with Listerine or Hydrogen Peroxide and spray directly
into the eye.
I would continue using the LA200 on those you've already treated cause I do
not know what affect all would have. All the new ones treat with Coni's
formula. This is Rx.
Nuflor also works
Neosporene also works
  
AnxietyRescue remedy - found in health food stores
  
Floppy KidThiamine bottle and make sure you give the kid 500mg. 
Floppy is easy to treat: The bottle I have is only 200mg/ml so I give 2-1/2cc. 
500mg Thiamine Here's a couple of different notes I have on floppy.
mixed with 
2cc longacting penicillinTreat daily for 3 days with:
given orallya.. 500mg Thiamine
b.. 2cc penicillin
c.. 2cc B Complex
d.. This can be mixed together & given orally.
c.. If the kids are flat when you find them give the following in addition to the above treatment:
a.. 1cc penicillin SQ
b.. Electrolytes or 50% dextrose given orally do not give milk if their gut has shut down
 -Tube feeding may be necessary.
c.. Probiotics mix with electrolytes to start the good bacteria going in the gut.
d.. If the kids are out with their dams be careful they don't get out in the sun & try to cook. 
These kids tend to seek out the sunny spots & dehydrate quickly.
e.. If the kid's gut is full and is not functioning a dose of Pepto-Bismol and/or baking soda will help.
f.. If the kid is flat:
a.. Prop him up on his brisket & hold his head & neck up with a rolled up towel
b.. Keep kids hydrated tube feed electrolytes or 50% dextrose.
c.. Withhold milk until the kids has been up and moving well for 8 hours.
d.. Don't let him get too cold or too hot.
I do not remove kids from the dam when they have floppy kid. I treat
with 2cc long acting Penicillin and 500mg Thiamin orally, for three
days in a row, and usually they stand and nurse in 6 hours or so. The
dam of the kid stands over it, and stimulates it, which helps it live.
Kids die of starvation rather easily, and keeping the kid from the doe
can cause mis-mothering. A doe with a distended udder, standing over her
kid, which can't nurse is one of the first things you see.
If I find the kid comatose, I give it 5cc or so of 50% dextrose orally
to get energy to the brain along with the thiamin. If it is hot, Revive
30cc will do. They need a little fluid, and sugar, but do not need to be
filled up, until the systems all start working again. I do not usually
give an antacid unless the kid is comatose.
If I find a kid in the pasture with floppy, I treat it, and put it in
the shade close to the water trough, so the doe will find it when she
comes to water. I have no mis mothering when I do this. I DO NOT
separate the kid from the doe. Coni
  
ToximiaRevive 3 to 4 times a day. Then Magic at night....
If you are only using magic then morning and night
The sooner you start treatment, the better
  
Wormsstore bought minced GARLIC 1 tablsp to 1lb of grain feed each feeding for 1 wk then
feed it every other week.
De-worm nannys 2 weeks before birthing and day she has the babies, worm babies at 3 weeks old
Tape Wormstape worm segment looks like rice  give Antihelmith like, Strongid C horse wormer pellets from TSC
dose them for a 250-300lb horse for the right amount of wormer.  
We hardly ever have to use Strongid C but when you see the segments they do have tapeworms
and only an antihelmith works.  You can use Strongid C horse paste or Tape Care plus.  
Tape WormsIvomec or Cydectin sheep wormer
        Cydectin give 10cc/100lbs of Cydectin Pour on for cattle or 1cc per 10lbs. 2cc/100 of the Cydectin 
injectable, both given ORALY
Cydectin sheep drench is .5% use the injectable given oral or the pour on.
The sheep drench is so weak you have to triple dose it and they spit a lot out
Give Goats Oraly Cydectin is injectable solution for beef and non-lactating dairy cattle. 
Cydectin Pour on at 10cc/100lbs or 2cc of the injectable oral/100lbs
CYDECTINinjectable give 1cc per 50 lbs  Or  oraly give 1cc per 10 lbs
Tapeworm ( Moniezia) is the mite 
Prohibit at 4cc/100lbs oral if it is diluted at the pkt/17.5 oz ratio
For treatment and control of the following 
internal and external parasites of cattle: nine types of Gastrointestinal Roundworms, Lungworms,
 two types of Cattle Grubs, Mites and two types of Lice. Not for use in female dairy cattle of breeding age, 
veal calves and calves less than 8 weeks of age. 21-day slaughter withdrawal. Withholding time in milk 
has not been established. Administer 1 ml for each 110 lbs (50 kg) body weight.
OrIvermectin 1% 1cc per 50lbs
Injectable Ivomec is 1%. The dose on that is 2cc/100lbs, but it is not very effective any more
I would not waste my time with that.
gives dosages on most medicines and wormers and what's safe to use. some use 1cc per 30lbs
Strongyles wormsValbazen does not work at all around here, and neither does
Ivomec. If you have strongyles, you had better use Cydectin or Levamisole
STRONGYLOIDES THREADWORMI would not count on invermectin plus to kill threadworms.
If Cydectin doesn't kill them you might want to try a large dose of Synanthic or Parantal tartrate.
TapewormsSafe Guard triple dose 3 days in a row-Other wormers for tapes is Synanthic, 
Lung WormsValbazan  kills lung worms 1cc per 100# or 15# not sure
DO NOT USE VALBAZEN  ON PREGNANT DOES
Lung Worms10cc Cydectin oral per 100lbs - signs are coughing
OrMorantel Tartrate strong enough to worm with. It is 2X, and sold by Walco. Follow label directions.
Tape WormsSynantic 7cc per 100 pounds 3 days in a row Synanthic at Valley Vet. Www.valleyvet.com 22%
OrBanamine in the muscle of the shoulder
OrProhibit at 4cc/100lbs oral if it is diluted at the pkt/17.5 oz ratio
OrQuest Plus gets tapes and did an excellent job getting rid of tapes without double dosing
Plant a natural wormerSericea Lespedeza hay would is a natural wormer
Tape Wormstape worm segment looks like rice  give Antihelmith like, Strongid C horse wormer pellets from TSC
dose them for a 250-300lb horse for the right amount of wormer.  
We hardly ever have to use Strongid C but when you see the segments they do have tapeworms
and only an antihelmith works.  You can use Strongid C horse paste or Tape Care plus.  
Also Safe Guard doesn't work well...you may want to switch to something better like Ivomec or 
Cydectin sheep wormer. 
WORMING DOGSI wormed all my LGD pups , Anatolians, also Gr. Pyr......... .......with
Strongid T....1cc per 5 lbs......... .
and I start worming at 3 weeks old, and then worm once a month.
Once they have passed 21 lbs they go on Ivomec injectable given orally. @ 1cc per 100 lbs.
The Ivomec will cover all worms(including heartworms ) except for tapeworms.
  
Runs1teasp.salt, 1/2teasp.soda, 4tabsp.corn syrup, 1/2gal warm water
Scoursscours caused by E. coli susceptible to Neomycin Sulfate in cattle (except veal calves), swine, sheep and goats. 
Give 1 tsp for every 100 lbs of body weight. May be added to drinking water. 
May be given non-diluted or diluted with water or milk. 30-day slaughter for cattle and goats, 
20 days for swine and sheep. 
runny yellow/green scoursI would give Scour Halt @ 1cc per 10# once a day until it's gone to get the scours under
control. May have to do it more than once.. And you can mix it with
pepto if you want..
Neomycin Sulfate (Tractor Supply) at 2cc per kid mixed
with Pepto Bismol 10cc? I would give them each 3-5 cc SQ of Polyserum
depending on body weight
Scours in babiesAlbon use 1 cc to 5 lbs. of weight the first day
and half that the next four days.
We buy the Albon in the gallon jugs, Coni
  
Mites1 oz prolate mixed with 1gal water-Scrub crust off and treat all infected areas
also give 2cc Ivomec injectable-cattle product 100lbs per body weight once a week until
it's well. Spraay lounging areas to prevent reinfection.
most common on belly, legs, and those places that touch the ground when they rest
for dogsdrop one drop of Ivermecting in ears rub down very far into the ear only one time
coni'sMix 15cc of Novalsan and 3 oz of isopropyl alcohol, and 1cc Ivermectin.
Clean the ears thoroughly. GET ALL of the junk out, then put 3cc per ear
every day for several days
  
LICECylence works well to treat them. Coni
  
Calcium/Phos linkhttp://www.shady-acres.com/susan/Calcium-Phosphorus.shtml
  
Pink EyeErythimicne Ointment,
LA200 dripped into the eye or penicillin same way
Coni's Gentamycin/steroid mix
Erthromycin ointment often works well
If none of these work, ask your doctor or vet to prescribe CILOXAN or ZYMAR
(human) eye drops for use 4 x a day
1 part Dexamethosone
1 part Gentamycin
2 part Sterile Water.
Mix and put in clean small spray bottle. Clean the eye (we used Listerine)
and then spray the formula into the eye. If gotten early it only takes a
spray for a couple of days and it will be gone.
  
MastitisToday" and "Tomorrow" is one brand name Today is if goat is lactating you must milk out the 
teats first. Tomorrow is for goats that have no milk.
Septic MastitisYou give Nuflor with the Twin Penacillin
Pencillin is not given with a Septra DS or Sulfa medication. They  work against each other
  
Putting down a goatplace the barrel of the gun at the back of the head and angle it for the bullet to come out the nose
One shot and they are gone, no movement what so ever
  
Sore MouthSoak the scabs a little with some Betadine to see if you can
> loosen any of them. Put on gloves and try to remove some so he can
> breathe better.
  
Hoof RotIncrease the zinc in the diet. Zinpro is a good additive to help with that.
cut the hoof rot out, and cauterized the entire area.
OrUse Prime90 White Line Treatment for hoof rot (or white line disease on horses). It even
took care of the weird rash under the cat's chin that the vet couldn't get rid of.
Clean out and trim the hoof, spray on twice a day. It usually doesn't take that long (3-5
days) before you see lots of improvement, or cure.
OrNuflor
OrBleach, soak the foot in a tub of water with bleach - 50% 50% ?
Oruse LA-200 and DMSO with good success. LA-200 is a bit cheaper
than nuflor. We only use this in severe cases. Didn't do the vet wrap
either. We just applied it every couple of days or so. It only took a
couple of applications. We now spray down every hoof we trim with 50%
Clorox and water. Haven't had any problems since but winter is fast
encroaching. Cold, wet, and yukky is when we have most of our hoof
problems. We don't vaccinate for hoof rot.
OrAt least 750 mg/day for 7 days of a sulfa drug, like Sulmet
purchase Sulmet at Primier1 small bottle for $8.50
At least 750 mg/day for 7 days of a sulfa drug, like Sulmet. You can get
that in a pkt that you mix with your own gallon of water, and then add to
her water each day. I would put it in a small bucket, and mix it fresh each
day.
Consider vaccinating
Foot Scaldfoot scald. We had one doe that it seemed
like every time I turned around she was limping again. We would cure it on
one hoof and she'd get it on another. Coni said to pull her up and put her in
a dry pen and to vaccinate her for Footrot. We gave Fusaguard 1 cc then in 3
weeks later another 1cc. She did great for about 2 months and then she started again
orfirst shot I mixed 5cc nuflur with 5 cc DMSO I
dipped a gauze in it soaking up as much as I could, Placed it between her
toes. I vet wrapped around her hooves just enough to keep her toes together
while I got a sock on her. Then I used the vet wrap again on it to hold the sock
in place. Then I just waited, with in a few days she had stopped limping, in
about a week she lost her sock.
  
Poisonous Weeds & Plants_Plants Known To Be Poisonous To Goats - GoatWorld.Com_
> (http://www.goatworl d.com/health/ plants/)
  
INDUCING2 cc Lutealayse and 5 cc Dexamethasone. Both IM. Both are given at the same time in different locations
BIRTHhttp://jackmauldin.com/management/Breedbirth.htm
1. discharge from the doe
2. When feeling the tail-bone..you can almost put your entire finger
around the tailbone.
3. changes in how the doe acts
4. the udder will become tighter
As they are in early labor they tend to lay down and get up.
You can see where her tail attaches to her body if you feel down from the hip to the tail if you can nearly touch your
fingertips that means her tendons have receeded for birth.
If you feel a tendon on each side (kind of feels like a pencil laying in there) then it's not quite ready.
You should noticed that her bag is strutted and full of mik (it may be larger and the teats may be slightly swollen).
As she draws nearer she may talk to her sides and you may notice a stream of thick discharge coming out of her vaginal area.
This means labor is near.
  
Goats birth control?Go to http://motesclearcr eekfarms. com/asp/articles /embryo-transfer -step%2b2. asp and you can read about 
CIDRs, how they are used, and see pictures.
  
FENCING1. Electric fence problems was to install a 100 Mile Fencer
for my 5 acre pasture. This thing generates 20,000 volts that draws a
1/2 inch spark. This fencer is so powerful that it zaps right through
wet vegetation still leaving 14,000 volts on the wires during a
thunder storm. I have the fencer in my garage so I can see the digital
voltmeter and warning lights.
http://www.valleyvet.com/ct_detail.html?pgguid=1eb46a13-4bd6-4ca7-aa77-a2dba29c14f0
It zaps right through the thick fur coat of any dog ( or wolf). It was
fun watching a pack of hungry wolves trying to sneak past my fence.
They tried again and again to sneak through each time running away
yelping & crying. They finally gave up, whimpering off into the forest.
2. If you are using slick wire this is most likely the problem. I learned
to use 15 guage barb wire 8" off the ground using the 6" offset
insulators. Make that wire hot. The dogs coat is to thick for slick
wire. It acts a an insulator to the electricity. Also, use a digital
electric fence tester. The voltage should be above 7000V to stop them. I
check my fence often and try to keep the voltage at 10000V. We humans
cant handle near the voltage the animal can.
I went through a similar situation with one of my dogs. Hot barbed wire
will do the trick.
  
Drinking Waterwhen you want a goat to drink medicine in water add unsweetened orange Kool Aid to it they love the flavor.
  
Gestation150 to 155 days
  
BIRTHING SUPPLIES      X1. watch
X2. pad of paper to journal the time and sex and time of after birth coming out 
X3. camera to document each baby
X4. blankets or towels to help dry the babies off and keep them warm while the mom is having another
X5. warm water for the nanny to drink or wash off anything you think you should but let the mother lick her baby 
clean they bond that way.
X6. Rubber surgical gloves.
X7. sterile scissors to cut umbilical cord,
X8. dip embilical cord in iodine tie off with dentql floss then cut with cutical clippers
X9. Sterile razor blade or scalpel to separate the ears if they are folded (optional)
X10. nasal aspirator in case the baby has stuff in the nose or mouth
X11. a warm safe birthing box or clothes basket for the babies to climb in so they can sleep without getting smashed
or walked on accidentally by the doe or anyone.
X12. make sure they will birth on fresh straw and after clean it out and put in more fresh straw.
X13 worm the mom after she is done
X14. drench her with B12 and calf pac and a little black strap molasses
X15. Iodine
16. KY Jelly - OB Lube - J Lube Powder and distilled water to mix it in
17. Betadine scrub wipe vulva keep clean
X18. paper towels
X19. kid colostrum and dry milk incase you have to bottle feed
X20. little red pritchard nipples
21.  Lamb puller - I wouldn't do without this now that I got one. It's an adjustable piece of
rubber with loops on both ends = slip around a kid's foot while you go fishing for the
other one. Can be sterilized easily. Works allot better than a piece of twine and it doesn't
slip off their feet. It's like having an extra hand there when you need one.
X22. long acting penicillin/oxytocin
23. heating pads cheep ons fro drug store
X24. tube to tube a kid with colostrum
25. BoSe for kids with weak legs (give the doe a dose too )
X26. 18 guage needles
X27 sterile syringes
X28. dip navel in old prescription bottle
29. newspapers for babies to be born on instead of the straw
30. frozen colostrum (that you stole from a doe that had extra)
31. Kid Care (It's like Nutri Drench)
32. Probiotic - give the doe probiotics if you have her on antibiotics after delivering
33. sheep rope halter if you have to tie the doe up to pull the kids and don't have anyone to help you
X34. Flashlight
35. Speculum & Light
36. Dexamethazone & thiamine
37. Dextrose if the kids are weak 5-10cc on the toung
38 Ear Notcher
39. Tags & tagger
X40. Scale & sling
X41. measuring cup and measuring spoons
X42. bottled water
43. Listerine - disinfectant
44. Thiamine if they are having hard time walking
Before birthing 
vaccinate with Covexin 8 for CD&T
vaccinate for pneumonia
use an autogenous CL Vaccine
The kids are vaccinated at 12 weeks with boosters three weeks later.
 
Your jobs with birthing1. You want to clear the wax from nanny's teet to be sure milk comes out.
2. Put the kid on her to nurse keep working at it until it get a good hold of her
3. Waite for the after birth feed it to your dogs or plant it under a rose bush.
4. clean their nose or mouth from mucous if they have any
5  clothesbasket - If we're having a really difficult birth with multiple kids, I will put the
kids in the clothesbasket to keep them from being stepped on while trying to deliver the
rest of the babies. If the weather's below freezing in the barn, I'll put the heating pads in
the clothesbasket, toss an old blanket over most of the top and keep those kids warm and
drying off while the rest of the kids are being born.
6. heat lamps and extra bulbs (we like the red ones here - they're hotter)
7.  duct tape and side lollipop sticks - ears curled up? the easiest time to fix it is when
they're born - pull them open, spray with an antiseptic wound spray, put a half lollipop
stick on both sides and tape the ear flat with duct tape. Take it off after three or four
days. Walah.
8. kidding record book - the ABGA has great kidding record books if you haven't seen
them already. weigh each kid, tag it, and record in the book.
3 day old kids
What to do when they are 3 days oldTake his temperature.  If it is normal, give him 2.5cc Children's Dimetapp 
(or the Walmart equivelent) - orally - 2 to 4 times a day (depending on how congested he is....
probably twice a day will be sufficient).  If he has a temperature, then he will need an antibiotic.
If he has a temperature, then he will need an antibiotic.
Since the dam wasn't vaccinated before giving birth,
we would also give both of them 2cc Poly Serum and 3cc CD Anti-toxin every two weeks until they
are old enough (12 weeks) to be vaccinated.  The first dose can be given orally; later doses need to be given SQ.
congested kids at birth 
Kids Normal tempture is  …...101.5 to 103  summer months 104 is normal
Nuflor would be my antibiotic of choice, given daily for 5 days, SQ. (SQ means shot under the skin).
The dose I've always heard is 3cc per 100 lbs. with a double 
dose for the first dose.  That would be 1cc for 33 lbs. or 1/2cc for 16.5 lbs.  So if he were mine,
 I'd probably give him
1cc initial dose then 1/2cc for the next 4 days.
I'd also do the Poly Serum and the CD Anti-Toxin.  Those are to provide immunity
Weak kidsWeak kids will sometimes respond better to a bottle or try to stand and nurse if you use 
Dextrose Solution 50% (this is the same solution used in IV's) use under the tongue, 1cc after birth. 
It gives newborn or weak kids a sudden boost of energy to help them get started, if kids become sluggish
again after trying to nurse, this can be repeated.
kids at 12 weeks vaccinate with CD&T
booster 3 weeks later
MOM after BIRTHINGWhen that vulva is swollen post partum, it is very dangerous.
I would suspect severe infection and treat with Nuflor 6cc per 100lbs every day for
 5-6 days, 20cc Penicillin per 100lbs, and Polyserum 15cc SQ on day one
and
10cc SQ for 4 more days. Banamine as necessary. These does die most of
these does die most of the time if not treated aggressively.
  
Snotty Nose (Pneumonia)Excenel for 3 days
 temperature?  If so, treat for shipping fever with penicillin and poly serum.
no temperature, treat for dust with Children's Benedryl
 10cc of Poly Serum (Bovi Sera) will clear them right up injection only 
1/2 on one side 1/2 on other side of lower chest between front legs
days. I experimented with the half cc booster, and it works just as well
Nuflor and Septra DS together to kick it
kids with Congestionsicker ones pen G Max. 1cc / 100lbs SQ (under skin). The most I gave in a row was 3 days to my 3mo old doe. 
That dosage was 0.25cc. I also gave thiamine SQ as well. Two did end up having a
little scouring at which time I went ahead and wormed them
Pneumonia Vaccine for kidsSuper Poly Bac B Somnus, the initial dose is 1cc SQ (under the skin)
followed in 14-21 days with a 0.5cc booster  then a 0.5cc booster yearly
Super Poly Bac B Somnus is 1cc initial and 1/2cc booster
Nuflor        ,,,Nuflor best treatment for pneumonia - 3cc to a kid - 5cc per 100lbs SQ?
  
  
Croked Leg1. lack of selenium in soil and E vitamin. Add to feed or polk a hold in a capsul and feed 200 units of vitamin E oral
2. splint with a toilet paper roll padded with mini pad
3. .5CC Bo-Se 
physical therapy twice a day and splinted the leg the rest of the time. 
It took about 3 weeks but the leg strengthened enough to put weight on and now at 6 months 
the animal is fine
  
Not Hungry1. worm them then treat with Albon treatments for coccidiosis for five days
2. follow the cattle dosage and give oraly. If not better on day 2 then 
3. add Nurflo get that from Vet.5cc per 100 lb the first day then half for the next 4 days
4. Fortified B has the highest amount of thiamine
in it than the regular B vitamin and it will help with stress and
help start wanting to eat, along with the other treatment
  
Pumpkin and seedsexcerpt from "Good Beginnings with Dairy Goats" by JE Eberhardt 
(just about the BEST book on goats that I have ever found...sadly now out of print.
Pumpkins and winter squash are a "must" crop for goats.  Both the seeds and the meat are relished.  
The seeds contain more protein than most grains, oats included.  Certain varieties of naked (hull-less) pumpkins
 and squash boast of up to 35% protein in the seeds.  Because the seed is an embryo of future life, 
nature packs it chock-full of vitamins and minerals.  Extremely abundant amounts of iron and phosphorus
 are found in these seeds along with lots of the B complex vitamins.  For centuries, gypsies and mountain 
dwelling Bulgarians have known that these seeds preserve male potency among humans and animals alike.  
They contain a male hormone-type component and zinc which both benefit the prostrate.       
Such squash as Hubbard, Butternut and Sweetmeat are good winter keepers.  While pumpkins are also good 
to use, the skins are thinner so they will not store quite as long.  Just put the fruits on a wooden surface 
in a cool cellar or somewhere in the barn where they will not be touched by freezing temperatures.  
The pumpkins will last 2 to 3 months, while the hard-rinded squash should last over 6 months. To feed, 
either crack with an axe and let the goats scoop out the contents, or cut the whole thing into bite=sized pieces.
  
Molassesuse molasses prior to and after kidding as a supplement for does. I put about 3/4 cup in a 3 gallon 
water bucket for them, usually just once a day. This goes into the 'maternity ward' pasture with 4 to 6 does. 
If I over do the molasses, the does get the plops. After kidding, a doe gets a container of warm water and molasses. 
Usually 1/2 cup of molasses and a gallon or so of water.
Anemic animals are given molasses in water along with other treatments, iron shot, fortified B complex shot, red cell, etc.
red cell, etc.
I can get bulk molasses from the feed mill in Nacogdoces for $0.25 a lb.
  
FEED3# a day of feed and 2 hands of Alfalfa daily.
If it was real cold, they got more and sometimes a handful of corn with the feed.
Usually fed the does 2# daily and Alfalfa, depending on how many, from 30 to 200 does.
with Ammonium Chloride and Rumensin in the grain pellets
  
Goat SuppliesGoat Butler by Northeast Gate Company
Here is a link with a picture. Scroll down about 1/2 way.
http://www.lazyjvra%20nch.com/goat_%20sheep_equipment1%20.html
  
UC / UrinaryTo prevent UC you need a 2 to 1 ratio of Calcium/Phosphorous in your feed.
1 lemon, 2TB Garlic, 1/2 onion in 1 quart of water recipe and drenched him 30 cc every 2 hrs 
OROne large purple onion diced
6 cloves garlic finely diced,
Juice of 6 large lemons
Heat on low heat in a corning ware or stainless pot ,with lid on until
onions are clear. Strain and drench with the entire contents.
  
Runny Yellow/Green ScoursI would give Scour Halt @ 1cc per 10# once a day until it's gone to get the scours under
control. May have to do it more than once.. And you can mix it with
pepto if you want..
  
Rumensinadded to grain to prevent cocksitists?
Deccoxadded to grain but inhibits the thiamine from working
AlbonSulfadimethoxine (sp) at 4 oz per 2 gallons of water for the
> first day and then 2 oz per 2 gallons the 2-7 day. If it's really
> hot and the weather is crazy (this is Michigan after all) I may go 10
> days but not longer
  
Poisonous Weeds & Plants_Plants Known To Be Poisonous To Goats - GoatWorld.Com_
> (http://www.goatworl d.com/health/ plants/)
Here is a good site with more information on poisonous plants:
http://www.caf.wvu.edu/~forage/library/poisonous
This is the page on black cherry.
http://www.caf.wvu.edu/~forage/library/poisonous/page6.htm#black
  
Bottle Feeding Formula3 cups water
1 cup non fat dry milk,
¼ cup whipping cream
1 large egg
1 scoop calf pac per batch in the morning
To double the recipeTo double the recipe use a jumbo egg, and 1/3 cup whipping cream and 6 cups
water, 2 cups non fat dry milk.
Do not microwave. Warm in hot water. To me it is easier to make it when I
need it.
  
Vaccinating pregnant DoesIf the goats are already vaccinated, then booster them 3-4 weeks prior to
 kidding. If they have not been vaccinated, get it done, both vaccination and
booster, then booster them again before they kid.
Rule of thumb: go forward 5 mos., back 5 days from the day you put the buck
in, and that will be the usual first day of kidding. Write that on your
calendar, then go back 3-4 weeks and mark your calendar for the day you
vaccinate and worm them. I worm them at vaccination time
give all of our annual vaccinations at the same time.
We give Covexin 8, Pneumonia, and CL vaccinations at the same time. It makes
the goats sore for a day or two, but it has been working for us.
  
EpinephrineEpinephrine is by prescription only these days.  A 30 mL bottle from Valley Vet costs $7.49 plus shipping.
$7.49 plus shipping. 1cc per 100#
 http://www.valleyve t.com/ct_ detail.html? pgguid=27a43c2c- 2282-47a9- a24d-f7696b019e9 6
  
Goat PolioWorm them first
Oral dose of Resorb
Dose of probiotic
Put in a stall and start on 10cc of longacting penicillin every day for five days
Fortified B Complex at 5 cc per 100 lbs. every six hours for a week
Dextrose and water orally or Resorb
Thiamine 3 Xs a day SQ......... ....at least 5 ccs
5ccs Penicillin once a day,
5ccs Polyserum today....... ...just today for the polyserum .....but if
no better do day after tomorrow also.
Do the Penicillin and Thiamine for 3 to 5 straight days........ ..even if he
does a complete turn around.
  
Hard to manage BuckACE Promazine, a sedative. Works wonders on a hard to manage buck
  
Stethoscopestethoscope do you have? (single bell cheap one from TSC or a
nice double bell like the vet usual has) If you have on like the vets, you
can use the smaller bell and it will usualy pick up heart/lung sounds better
on kids. Most of all you just need to practice listing for heart/ lung
sounds. Take a day and pick about 10-20 goats to listen to and to it
somewhere quiete where you can constrate on the sounds.
  
Navle illnessNavel ill/ sepsis can occur very shortly after birth. Joint ill can occur
from a puncture or injury that is not even visible.
This is what Coni has to say about Joint Ill/Navel Ill:
>  
> It's a tough treatment on them and you.
> Day 1: 
> 7cc Nuflor
> 10cc Penicillin SQ
> 10cc Bovi sera.
> he idea is to get that infection stopped before it gets to the
solid stage in the joints or in the
> organs. Most of the time, if you are not aggressive enough, the kid
will be permanently crippled,
> and stunted.
> Day 2:
> 5cc SQ of Nuflor
> 7cc Penicillin.
> Repeat the bovi sera on days 4&8.
> The way I feel about it: it is going to die a very painful death if
I don't
> get agressive, so rather than just knock it in the head, I am
aggressive. It
> works for me.
  
EYESLook into the eye, could have something, If yes, you need to bring him to the Vet.
If not...Can try him with Amoxicillin 500 mgs every 12 hours with food.
Clean the eyes and use Tobradex ophthalmic suspension..( Tobramycin + Dexamethasone ) 3 times daily X 7 days.
1 part Dexamethasone
1 part Gentamycin
1 part Sterile Water
Put all in a clean small spray bottle. Clean the eye are with Listerine and
spray directly into the eye. It works great for pink eye and it worked great
on my llama. His eye was completely covered with a thick white film. He
probably poked something into his eye. Sprayed it for 2 days and he was
okay.
ENTROPIONsee her top and bottom eyelashes? or are the bottom ones
turned under/inward? If turned inward, it's called entropion and
needs to be fixed by rolling the eyelid out and placing a drop of
superglue just below the lashes adhering it to the "bags" under the
eye. When the superglue wears off the eyelid will stay in place
  
Feed GrainFeed is mixed to be balanced. The right amount of grain, protein (cotton
> seed meal or soy bean meal) vitamins and minerals. There isn't any bad
> stuff in it. Molasses adds lots of energy, minerals like iron, and it
> improves palatability. Rumensin is put in there to prevent coccidiosis, and
Rumensin is put in there to prevent coccidiosis, and
Ammonium Chloride to prevent urinary calculi. Neither of those things are bad.
If you don't feed a balanced ration, you often run into trouble.
  
Best mineral feeder2. Take a 3 inch PVC pipe and a 3 inch Y (PVC) and connect it so you can
fill it from the top and put a lid on.
Works great and can be installed in any part of your barns/sheds.
3. cut a hole in fence take two pieces of wood
cut a hole through both pieces of wood just large enough to get the goat head and not the horns in
like a sandwich with the fence in the middle. Screw the two pieces of wood together so there is a piece
on each side of the fence. Put the minerals on the side of the fence that they are not living in
They stick their head through the hole in the fence and eat the mineral that is in a pan
Cover the pan to keep the rain out
4. use container home made.  2" PCV w/ elbow and cap at the bottom, screw on cap at the top, 
mounted to the outside of the gate.  This can be used with 3 or 4", what ever size you want.  
Mine is about 3 ft tall, easy to fill and they self feed out of the elbow opening.  Ours is not even glued.
  
Mange for Dogs>Use Ivomec injectable but give oral.  I would give the Ivomec oral. I do not inject dogs.
1cc/100lbs for mange given oral once every 5 days
> I treat the areas topically with Prolate mixed 1 oz/gallon to spot treat at least one time. Wear gloves
 OR Ivomec at the rate of 1/10 cc per 10 lbs
  
PLANT IN FIELD FOR WINTERa mixture of cereal rye, bob oats, turnips, beardless wheat, and Austrian peas
  
Pneumonia vaccineSuper Poly Bac B Somnus, the initial dose is 1cc 
followed in a couple weeks with a 0.5cc booster then a 0.5cc booster yearly
Super Poly Bac B Somnus is 1cc initial and 1/2cc booster
  
Automatic Syringesautomatic syringe system similiar to the Felton one on www.jefferslivestoc k.com 
but found that the when cleaning the tube air would get left in there...and sometimes 
we would find bacterial growth if it wasn't flushed out well enough.  
We typically would run water, followed by rubbing alcohol followed by another water rinse.  
We have now used - when vaccinating the entire herd...the Allflex again on www.jefferslivestoc k.com 
where the bottle basically is just attactched to the mechanism.  It works very well, an is very efficient.  
The bottle stays in place, and we are able to change the dosage, and have little waste.  
We change the needle a little more often though than going through the entire herd.  
All healthy animals penned together may get the same needle usage, 
but as we move to another pen or corral, we change needs, and from larger does to smaller 
does change needles.   We clean by rinsing with warm water.
  
Smelly runs E-ColiE Coli. Here is Coni's
treatment for it..
I usually give 5cc SQ of Polyserum or Bovi Sera to a kid that is scouring,
as it has the antibodies to E Coli. I mix 15cc Pepto Bismol with 2-3cc
Biosol for a small kid. The Biosol is Neomycin Sulfate 200mg/ml, so a dose
for a small kid would be 2cc oral once a day or twice for severe scours. For
larger kids, 2.5-3cc, which is 500-600mg. An adult dose is 1 gram/1,000 mg
oral which is 5cc mixed with 30cc Pepto Bismol. Huge bucks could be given
1500 mg/ which would be12.5cc.
This drug will treat coccidiosis too, and many other types of scours, but it
you know the goat does not have worms, and it has not responded to treatment
after the first 24 hours, you should suspect Salmonella. Take a sample to
your vet and have him culture it. The drug of choice for Salmonella is
Ampicillin.
Scours in babiesuse ALBON 1 cc to 5 lbs. of weight the first day
and half that the next four days.
We buy the Albon in the gallon jugs, Coni
FlushingFlushing has two different meanings.
Flushing – Increasing the amount of feed and general nutritional levels (possibly by vitamin or 
 mineral injections) a doe is given the month before breeding in an attempt to increase the number of kids she has. 
This management technique is said to improve ovulation rate.
Embryo Flushing – The process of removing the fertilized eggs from the donor.
Kenny, in the message below, was referring to embryo flushing.  
We have an article about this beginning at http://www.motesclearcreekfarms.com/asp/articles/Embryo-
Transfer-Step%2B1.asp (We list 7 steps in our embryo transfer process.  We don't recommend step #5.)
  
Feed Mix  winterdoes get 1/4 lb of barley corn mix per day and in late feb that will be increased to 1/2 lb per doe
  
Vaccines on pregnant doesFusaguard on all of our goats. We never had a doe abort from it. One
of our does had to have 3 or 4 shots to stop her from getting footrot again.
She was bred and gave birth to triplets a month after the last shot.
Maybe it's one of those "Depends on which trimester they are in" Vaccines.
booster the last 4 weeks of Pregnancy along with their CDT booster
Do not mix vaccines unless the bottle says you can
  
shots/ Injections no more than 6cc's or 6ml in one spot cc's and ml's are the same. Connie Renolds says 10cc's splip in half as 5cc
do between front legs Covexin8 leaves knots
Give all shots SQ unless IM is recommended.
  
Cattle dosages on Vaccinesrule of thumb for using cattle vaccines on goats is to give half the recommended cattle dose
  
Feedingyou have a lot of green forage, you do not need to feed grain/feed. If
you do not, then you better feed unless your hay is alfalfa, or something
better.
  
Clippers1. Andis Power Groom on Ebay for $92-usually listed around $138 or so and retails direct from Andis for $159
2. Laube's after reading what Robin has to say about them
3. Power Grooms Does offer an option of becoming a cordless clipper set with the purchase of a
 battery pack that looks like it runs an additional $60
cermic blads run cooler, #10 blade
universal guard
  
line breedingThe short answer is linebreeding is a form of inbreeding depending on
how close a common acestor is on both top and bottom of the pedigree.
Truly, Outcrossing is where no ancestors on the top or bottom of the
pedigree are the same.
A quick overview of genetics:
the terms: Outcrossing, linebreeding, an inbreeding aren't written in
stone. There is some percentage of inbreeding if you go far enough into
the pedigree. There is a calculation used, called the coefficient of
inbreeding, to tell you how inbreeding there is in any given pairing.
For the most part 3-5 generations are used to calculate this. For
example, a father daughter paring would have coefficient of 25%. Meaning
that there is a 25% chance that the offspring will have a given trait.
The higher the coefficient the greater the chance that the trait will be
reproduced.
This is where it starts to get tricky. Lets says that you breed a
father-daughter, because both of them has exceptional growth rate. You
are wanting to increase the probability that there kids will grow fast
to. This is one to accomplish it, but it has a down side also. Lets say
that they need to have hooves trimmed often. You will also increase the
likely hood that the kids will have fast growing hooves. My mother used
to say "you double the good traits and you double the bad traits". That
is reason for culling even heavier.
  
cross breedingI believe that cross-breeding would be the mating of different breeds-- Boer x Nubain.
Outcrossing (complete outcross) would be within a breed, but unrelated.
Line-breeding and in-breeding, in my opinion, do not have a clear line dividing them.
 In-breeding is much closer than line-breeding. At some point, line-breeding won't have much impact because it get's 
pretty remote. So I do the math to determine how much of a common anscestor's genetics actually would be contributed. 
For instance, if you breed a half-brother to half-sister, the resulting offspring have the same grandsire (or gr dam) 
on each side of the pedigree. That's 25% of the genetics from each grandparent, so the offspring in question has 50% 
of the grandsire's genetics-- same as if it was a direct son or daughter. This is my preferred method of linebreeding, and
of course only linebreeding on a superior animal. When you have to look back 4 or 5 generations to find a common 
anscestor, I dont' think they will have much influence on the offspring.
You can certainly have outcrossing within a herd. Just because an animal carries NK prefix doesn't mean it 
can't be used for an outcross with another NK animal.
As your other statement explains, it is the mating of animals that do not have common anscestors.
 
  
outcross breedingis unrelated
  
clip the hair away around the wound
flush  wounds, put penicillin into the wound itself.  also use the Scarlet Oil.
 It penetrates good and helps keep flies off. 
put on 15 cc of penicillin for almost a month  
Childrens motrin is what I use (the generic Walmart brand)  at 1cc per 25 #. 
antibiotics, something good like Nuflor
flush the wounds several times a day with a weak Betadine/water solution
Try not to let the wounds close over too soon; they will continue to be infected on the inside
You can give aspirin by mouth
 Also Gatoraide for the hydration and sugar
  
aborted, put her on 10 cc of long lasting penicillin daily for five days for a just in case.
have the placenta and a dead kid tested for Chlamydia or
Leptospirosis. Either will cause late term abortion, and I would want to
treat the rest of the goats just in case.
  
treat every day if you suspect Anaplasmosis. If you can't give
the Nuflor every day, you can put Terramycin in the water at 750mg-1,000
mg// doe or Aureomycin to top dress feed. Treat at least 5 days. Every other
or every third day treatment does not work well in goats, as they tend to
relapse.
  
Probiotics, B Complex, and Poly-Serum
  
CoccidiosisCoccidia are single celled organisms that infect the intestine.  http://www.marvista vet.com/html/ body_coccidia. html
Coccidiosis is a parasitic disease of the intestinal tract caused by microscopic organisms called coccidia. 
The disease spreads from one animal to another by contact with infected feces. It is most severe in young or weak 
animals and often causes bloody diarrhea.  http://www.bobmckee .com/Client% 20Info/Parasites /Coccidiosis. html
Put another way, coccidia is the organisms that cause coccidiosis.  And Sulmet is marvelous at treating coccidiosis.
Sulmet is marvelous at treating coccidiosis.
  
1) The vet says you can MIX B12 + Banamine in the same syringe, but
you can mix the Banamine ONLY with B12. Not B complex, not any other
form of B vitamin. As in mixing them in the same syringe & needle. ANd
I guess the vet does it this way to reduce the stink of the injection.
> So, after having hopefully clarified that-I drew banamine into the
syringe based on 1cc/100# dosage. In my case, that was 1cc in the syringe.
> Then, since I used 1cc in syringe, I put same syringe into B12 bottle and drew out 1 cc of B12.
> So now my syringe had a TWO cc concoction in it. I mixed it a little by shaking the syringe a little.
> Then, gave the banamine/B12 injection under the skin.
  
B-1   ThiamineInject SQ 500ml - for goats that wobble, lack of interest
  
Bringing a goat homeworm , delice an give it a shot of broad pectrum antibiotic vaccinate for CL
Before you buyFirst, you need to check the animals over better before you buy.
Worms have been a problem for awhile and a quick visual check of his
eyelids and gums by you could have detected that. Also, asking the
seller when was the animal last wormed, vaccinated, etc will help you
determine what kind of care he gives his animals.
Anytime I buy an animal, the first thing I do when I get it home is
worm it, delice it an give it a shot of a broad spectrum antibiotic.
I also vaccinate for CL.
Make sure the tattoos on the animal match the papers. If there is no
tattoo, that's a flag. If there is no tattoo and no papers, that's a
flag with a flashing strobe light. In the future tell them to let you
know as soon as they get the papers back and you'll come back and pay
for the animal. That will motivate them to get it done if their
intentions are honorable. Most people don't advertise registered
stock for sale unless they have the papers so buyer beware.
  
2cc SQ dose of Vitamin A. A deficiency in Vitamin A
will cause poor lactation, and poor immunity. Are the does thin? Have they
been wormed? What is the condition of the pasture? Do you supplement feed
and mineral?
  
Give at least 6 hours after giving oral medicines
  
pregnant blood testsFor $7.50 you can send blood to Biotracking and they can tell you if your
doe is bred or not. I have been using their service for a few years now. The
goat needs to be at least 26 days past breeding.
_www.biotracking. com_ (http://www.biotrack ing.com)
  
Sudan GrassesSudan grasses can cause poisoning following a frost/freeze.
http://netvet.wustl.edu/species/goats/goatpois.txt
6    Cyanogenetic Plants
         These contain under certain conditions, prussic  acid (hydrocyanic
     acid), a deadly poison which interfers with the oxygen-carrying ability
     of the  blood. Death in these cases is usually rapid and  with little
     outward symptoms. Members of the  prunus family of plants, especially
     wild cherries,  are dangerous. Peaches, plums and other stone  fruits
     belong to this group of plants. Wilting of the  green leaves caused by
     frost, storm damage, or by  cutting, changes a glucoside found in the
     leaves to  hydrocyanic acid (HCN) and sugar. The sweet,  wilted leaves
     are thus more attractive to animals  than normal foliage. HCN content
     varies widely;  but under some conditions a few handfuls of leaves  may
     be enough to kill a horse or cow. This type of  poisoning should be
     suspected when sudden death  of animals follows windstorms or early
     sharp  frosts. These leaves apparently lose their poison  after they
     have become dry; the limp, green or partially yellowed leaves are the
     most dangerous.  Sudan grass and sorghums are also cyanogenetic  plants.
     These plants are usually deadly when  damaged or frozen. Aftermath
     sprouts following an early frost are particularly dangerous. Very
     little sudan grass poisoning occurs from animals  trampling down plants
     and later eating them  although this is often listed as dangerous. In
     dry  weather, sudan grass is often pastured to the  ground without ill
     effects. After sudan grass has  been repeatedly frozen and the plants
     are completely dead, it is safe but not very valuable for  pasture.
7        Once frozen, sorghum, sorghum sudan hybrids,  or their aftermath
     should never be pastured. As  long as the plants show any green color
     they may  be very poisonous. Both frosted sorghum and  sudan grass can
     be best and most safely utilized by  ensiling them for at least two
     weeks before feeding.  Normal ensilage fermentation safely eliminates
     the  poisonous principle.
Under other circumstances sudan grass/hay is perfectly acceptable for livestock grazing/eating.
  
Joint IllJust add Polyserum 5cc SQ to that every other day. I don't give less than
limping and swelling> 3cc Sq even to a kid, and one with joint ill needs more than that.
It causes sepsis, and pus will be in the heart and in the peritoneal cavity.
If you start treatment immediately and treat for at least 7-10 days, you have a
> chance of saving her without her being crippled. I would also start with
> Septra (Sulfadimethox with Trimethoprim) 240 mg oral twice a day at the same
> time. This is a tough thing to fight, but it can be done successfully.
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Milk supplementswalmart milk, condensed milk and butter milk mixture.
i think 8 ounces is a bit to much for these young kids at this time. i dont feed more than 3 ounces a feeding 
every two hours for the first week, then add more each day up to 6 ounces for three times a day, then up to 8 ounces 
 when they are almost a month old and on twice a day feedings.
can you milk the doe out and give that to them or mix with the suppliment milk powder?
  
Caseous Lymphadenitis  CLtest via blood or the pus can be tested.
lance then test for the bad kind it can kill the whole herd - after lancing put iodine on it
  
Bottle fed goatsCaprine nipples for the bigger ones and the Pritchard teat for the small babies. Most will use Pritchard from beginning to end.
I usually wait a few hours after they are born to give them a bottle..
they seem to take it better then. This last year I started giving them a squirt of the goat colostrum 
gel(from Jeffers) before I tried the bottle and that worked well also, 
the Vit B gave them a boost in appetite and they took to the bottle faster.
  
EnterotoxemiaEnterotoxemia: 5cc CD antitoxin
5cc penicillin SQ
or5cc Penicillin and 10cc Pepto Bismol mixed and given oral.
I also gave her .15cc IM of Banamine
  
Seman TanksAI kit cost between $120 - $200, a semen tank is your big cost - $600 &
AI ….Artificial Insemenation…..up. Then you have to keep it charged every 8-12 weeks. Semen runs $50-$200
a straw, figure 2 straws (sometimes you only need one). But, you can breed
to the best bucks you can buy.
StrawsMost places charge $50-$60 a head to AI goats
  
  
E-ColiBar-Guard 99 kills the E-Coli - give 2 cc's orally after they have had a good drink of their Mom's
K-99 strain of E-ColiFirst milk and within the first 8 hours after being born
Bar Guard 99 from Jeffers
  
Listeriosis10cc Penicillin orally, 100cc Dextrose mixed with 100cc water, and 500mg
symptoms drooling, circlingThiamine, plus 1 scoop calf pac oral.
8cc Nuflor on day one SQ and 6cc/day for at least 5 days.
Then 10cc Penicillin SQ, mixed with 1,000 mg of thiamine once a day until
recovery. If she can't eat, you will have to drench her.
Listeriosis SymptomsListeriosis affects the 5th cranial nerve, and there is always drooping of
one side of the face, and mouth. The tongue will be out on that side.
Keep up the Penicillin and thiamine. I would give one 10cc dose of
Penicillin oral to kill bad bacteria, then restart the rumen 12 hours later
with Calf Pac. Polyserum 10-15cc SQ will help too, while the immune system
is compromised.
  
Microscopescheck Wall Mart for $40.00
  
Dose for Polyserum... ......... ...10 ccs grown doe
15-20 ccs grown big buck
5 ccs young goat
Given every other day or every 3rd day......... ..depending on the severity
  
Winter Pastures   ...  
They are usually not enough to cause death or serious illness but result in weak or dead kids, 
and decreased milk production.  High nitrates occur when there is a wet spell followed by sun 
light etc.   Usually if you keep out free choice hay & minerals they do just fine.  He may need to
limit the time they are on the pasture. 
  
FEEDING GOATSgoats need to eat 3# of food to every 100# of body weight. So a 200# goat needs to eat 6# 
 of food consisting of grain, hay, brouse, alfalfa.
  
WORMING METHODS TESTINGHow are the LGD's affected by the copper sulfate(CuSO4) water?
By Richard Ramsey
http://www.pacsirtafarms.com/CuSO4 is not the same thing used for worm control. Copper oxide wire (CuO) is used for 
worm control. It is not absorbed into the blood stream like CuSO4 is. I have been using CuO
 for several months now having having reasonably good success with worm control. 
It is too early for me to say exactly how well it is working. I started it during the summer 
after we were fighting worms. I bought a few spanish does to use as a quasi control group before I started 
with the CuO. They started having the same worming problems as the FB Boers were having. 
That let me know it wasn't a genetic issue. That it was an environmental issue. I treated about 1/2 of 
the does with CuO and left the other half on wormer as needed based on FAMANCHA and 
Fecal Egg Counts. It has been about 5 months now and the most of the ones using CuO haven't needed 
to be wormed. My testing was screwed up because I had a of a few bouts of kidney stones. 
I will restart the comparison between the CuO and no CuO soon.
  
LDG Jump BoxesA special made box for dogs to get in and goats cannot- directions found in files section of boar_goat blog
5x5 pen made out of square tubing and small squares.
 At the front we have cut a section across where the dogs can jump in it, but is high enough
where the goats can't. The dogs are on a self feeder inside the jump box
  
molasses tubsThis is what we do with our tubs.
Keep an empty one,put a 2x4 on the back of it.screw it into a wall,then
place a full one inside of the empty one. You need to drill small holes
anout 3 of them into both tubs and use a tie wrap to keep it from coming out
...........no more kids in the tubs
  
NANNY CAMThere are 2 main types - wired and wireless. We started looking at
the wireless. There were a lot of things we did not understand -
interfearance from cordless phones, wireless rounters, metal barns,
interior walls... And the wireless cost more. The house is about
200' from the barn so we deciced just to bury a cable.
The biggest decision and the most expensive piece is the camera. I
know notheing about cameras and they are all different. They come in
every price range - 30$ to 100+$ each. We wanted outdoor cameras
with a wide vision range. We bought 2 cameras and hooked them up and
decide the quality was good enough for us - then we bought 2 more.
Here is what we ended up purchasing:
4 cameras 39.95 each + shipping from ebay. They came with power
supplys, 60 or 90' power/video cable and mounting brackes. In the
scope of cameras these are VERY cheap cameras. We were satisfied
with the picture and they work for us.
A quad processor - about 45$+ shipping from ebay. The cameras plug
into this. You can program it to sequence and program the display
time for each camera. The camera has a vidio connection and the quad
processor has a BNC input. You will need conversion connectors to
connect each camera. I believe our quad processor came with these
connectors.
We purchased and 250' foot outdoor cable for 18.95 + shipping from
ebay. We burried this fromt the barn to the house. The output on
the quad processor is BNC and the cable is a F connectoor. YOu will
need a converter for this also. YOu can purchase on ebay for about
1.50$ or from Radio shack for about 6$.
By the time we got it burried and into the house where we wanted it
the cable was a little short. We ended up buying another short cable
and some adapters to allow us to connect the two - from the dollar
store (dollar general or family dollar or menards or lowes). My
husband put a F connector jack outlet(like for cable or TV antena) in
the wall and we got another short cable for upstairs.
Here is a tricky part. Because we were going direct to a tv we
needed an RF modulator. We would have never figured this one out on
our own - they guy from radio shack told us. You will also need an F
to RCA connector adaptor to get from the RF modulator to the cable to
the tv. The RF modulator hooks up backward from what you would
think. The cable going to the TV needs to be hookud up to the RCA
jack side of the modulator then it screws into the F
connector/antenna jack on the back of the Tv. If your are going to a
VCR - you do not need the RF
modulator, but you still need the F to RCA converter to connect to
the VCR.
You can get a RF modulator for about 10$. The converters are 1.50on
ebay or 6$ at radio shack.
sometimes it is just easier to spend the money and go to radio shack
than wait for a week to get the part.
Someone gave us a little 12" TV. I set it on my night stand. I can
turn it on any time and see what is going. I'm hoping to find a free
VCR some time so I can tape them.
I'm guessing after Christmas there will be a lot of free older TVs
avail.
We put the quad process and a power strip in a plastic tub in the
barn. We ran all the cables into/out of the plastic tub.
We spent about 350$ with shipping and misc parts. There are a couple
of issues. The quad prcessor is in the barn. To program, someone
has to push the buttons in the barn and someone needs to be in the
house telling them the buttons to push. It can be a little bit of a
pain to get programmed. If there is a camera error, it stops
sequencing and just show the 4 way split screen. You need to go to
the barn and push the seq button to get it to start again.
I'm not sure the equipment we bought was inteded for extream cold
weather. We have have lowe overnights in the low 20s and everthing
seems to keep working - we get a camera error and it stops
sequencing, but pushing the button gets it going.
We bought cameras with night infared. We always leave the lights on
in the barn. If a bulb burns out, the picture quality is not very
good.
When I wake up in the morning I turn the TV on and check, I turn it
on when I get home from work -before I head out and I watch it for a
while when we go to bed. If I wake up in the night, I sometimes
check it. We do not have 100% coverage, I think they know where
they can go to get off camera. The purpos was to check for does in
labor, and I think it will work great.
  
PAIN AFTERIf you dont have banamine, childrens motrin works.  1cc per 25#
 DELIVERY BREACH
Temp over 104 give …10ccs polyserum asap, and
10ccs penn. twice a day, and also banamine ( 1cc per 100 lbs )…
she is probably still in a lot of pain from having those breech births…
if a goat is in pain, it will not eat. Take her temp…
if over 104 you know she has an infection, which is very possible. 
give Banamine every 8 hours for 24 hours. Also a probotic daily. (calf pac)
  
Revive100cc of 50% dextrose, 
15cc B complex, 
1000 mg thiamin, 
2cc B12, 
Put in a clean jar, and store in a dark place. It will keep.
When you get ready to use it, add an equal amt of water to the amt. you plan to give.
you plan to give. Don't add live bacteria to it until you are ready to use it.
This will make a goat that is off feed and water eat and drink.
We use it a lot in the show string to keep them eating and drinking when we haul them.
We've had goats that looked like death warmed over stand up and eat and drink,
and act fine in about 30 min after this is given.
It gets the sugar to the brain, wakes them up, and makes them feel good.
 The vitamins are cheap, and this works as well as a lot of the expensive
products you can buy.
If you have a doe with Pregnancy Toxemia, you add equal amts of Amino Acid
 Solution to this.( same amt as the 50% dextrose)
 Not the concentrated amino acid soultion, as it has
too much postassium in it. Coni
  
sulfadimethoxazolemy vet: 2cc's per 100lbs. 1cc to a kid
with trimethoprim
  
Making bottled milkConi recipe:
for baby goats1 cup powdered milk
3 cups warm water
1 egg, ¼ cup whipping cream.
Mix in the mixer
Add a scoop of calf pac if you can get it. You can leave off the whipping
cream if you don’t have it until you can
 
  
Bottle feed milk 1 gallon of whole milk, 1 can evaporated milk and 1 cup whole buttermilk. 
receiptYou can pour off about 3 cups out of the gallon of milk and add the other, 
then add the milk back to your gallon jug when you have used enough for it to fit. 
Since she is humped I might also try some baking soda dissolved in water and given orally by syringe. 
Or it would probably do fine just to mix some in the milk and give her
Coni's Milk ReplaceI put 1/4C whipping cream, 1 large egg, 1cup non fat dry milk and 3
 Recipecups of
water, which makes 30 oz..
For a larger batch, I double everything except
for using 1/3 cup whipping cream.
I have had to triple and do the following
3 eggs
3 cups powdered milk
1/4 cup whipping cream
1/3 cup whipping cream
2 cups water
Mix in blender
Add to 7 cups of water (9 cups water total)
This makes about 3/4 of a gallon
Schedule
1-2 day old kids should receive 4 to 6 ounces 4 times a day
3-7 day old kids 8-10 ounces 3 times a day
1-2 week old kids 12- 14 ounces 3 times a day
3-6 week old kids 16-20 ounces 2 times a day
7-8 weeks 20 ounces two times a day
depending on when you choose to wean ( most do so at 12 weeks I do so
at 10) you
can gradually start decreasing the amount of milk over the last 2
weeks.
  
Bloat in baby kidsbloat in most kids is Enterotoxemia. I give 30cc Pepto Bismol
to a big kid, 15 to a small kid, mixed with 10cc Penicillin, and 5-7cc SQ of
Penicillin, 7-10cc CD antitoxin, and Banamine 1cc/100lbs body weight IM. I
usually follow up with CD antitoxin the next day, more SQ Penicillin, and
restart the rumen with Calf Pac the next day. You may need to give one more
dose of CD antitoxin on day two. Assess and treat as necessary.
I use Covexin 8 to vaccinate, I have had no break over from this vaccine. I
have had break over from all of the others, and over the years, have tried
Coni    Cell phone: 512-496-3197 w/Voice mail
  
Floppy KidBeing 3 days old, I'd guess it was floppy kid. The treatment is 2cc of long
lasting Penicillin and 1cc of 500mg of Thiamin mixed. Give orally 3 days in
a row. Floppy Kid Syndrome is usually 3-21 days. He didn't do this at birth
did he? If so, then it might be Selenium Deficiency and that would be
another treatment.
  
MILK GOITERspray under tail with iodine
  
ON DOGS
Skin Infectionsused for acne and for blepharitis (an
Bacterial Infectionseyelid condition) not for it's antibacterial action but because it changes
the nature of the oily secretions in the skin. Tetracycline does this also but
Doxycycline is a form ofoften must be taken 4-6 times daily as opposed to usually once or twice daily
Tetracyclinefor Doxy. (for the skin conditions I mention) It is generally known to be
very safe with few side effects for most people, but of course anyone can have
  
White discharge in doesmeans the doe has been in heat
 
  
9 drugs approvedthiabendazole, neomycin
for goats in USAsulfate, oxytocin, monensin, phenothiazine, crufomate, morantel tartrate,
proparacaine hydrochloride, and fenbendazole (plus some variations of the listed drugs).
Any other drug is used Extra Label with the following
restrictions. Extra label drug use - Allowed within a valid
client-patient- veterinarian relationship Increased dose or prolonged rate of
depletion Need to determine an appropriate extended withdrawal interval.
This is the law. If a goat is traced back to your herd that was condemned
at slaughter for drug residue you could be finded.
  
CONDITIONING A BUCK#1 - Suggested to give 10cc of Wheat Germ Oil Blend & 5 cc of Dyne
 (both low in protien & high in fat) along with 1/8 cup of PowerPhat
twice a day & all the alfalfa hay he can eat (both of those last 2
are high in protein)
#2 - To his show feed add beet pulp, rolled barley, whole corn, &
give the powerphat 1/8 cup twice a day.
  
Greasy stain on tailIf the coffee colored stain is greasy, it is ketones. Ketones are a by
product of fat metabolism. the doe is using her own fat and muscle to keep
serum glucose high enough to keep the pregnancy alive. She is canabalizing
her self to maintain the pregnancy. Feel her topline: can you feel ribs, and
vertebrae on a doe that looks otherwize fat? if so, those are the first
indicators that pregnancy toxemia is begining.
I give a big dose of calf pac, and increase feed starting with a handful of
corn that I increase each day. Reivive and Magic treatment may be called for
if the doe continues to loose condition.
Urine can stain sometimes when a doe has an infecction.
  
Polk a dot goat historyActually Lynda, the development of the Boer goat breed in South Africa
began with Tollie Jordaan Sr whose used "a large dappled buck".
Jordaan's "large dappled buck" provided the initial genetic base for the
Boer goat we know today. The reds produced were not used, but were
culled until eventually were developed into another breed which became
known as the Kalahari Reds. These red goats were not mixed with the
"traditional Boer goats". I would like to invite you to join the
Spotted & Dappled Boer Goat Yahoo Group in an effort to educate you
better on the Boer breed and to familiarize you with the breeders
breeding for spots and dapples. There are many breeders breeding
quality "Polka Dot" Boer goats. Julie Maxwell - MAX Boer Goats PA Meat
Goat Producers' Assoc Spotted & Dappled Boer Goats Moderator
  
Breeding for hight I have been working on that for a long time. The medium frame animal is the
weightmost efficient on pasture. What I have seen in my own does, is that they
are 120 lbs or so by 12 most. 140-150 by age 2, and finish off growing at
age 4, with weights between 170-180 on pasture. When they are 4-8 or 9 years
old is when they are the most productive. They are no longer growing, and so
are able to put all of their effort in to the kids. Most of my kids will be
55-60 lbs at 10-12 weeks of age on pasture alone. The key is to have goats
that can rear kids themselves, and don't require constant care.
Concentrate on a buck with a big butt, and big top. Keep his best daughters.
You will see your genetic improvement in their kids.
I kid them up close the first time, and cull those that don't mother well,
don't have enough milk, or have problems kidding. As time has passes, these
goats will raise a 150% kid crop on pasture with no intervention at all.
Supplement in winter as necessary to maintain body condition. Keep in mind,
colder climates require more attention to nutrition and shelter.
As time passes, you will see improvement in each generation. Survival is the
first criteria: mothering, milking, and ease of kidding. You can Keep that
thick buck, and breed him back to grand daughters, and intensify the carcass
characteristics.
I like them long, tall, and thick without sacrificing femininity, So I keep
the does that suit my preference , and put new, thick bucks on them.
If you have a goat that is anemic when the rest are bright pink: Worm her,
and put a slash mark across the front of her ear tag, then next time you go
to the auction, you hall her too. Do not keep problem animals, they will
most likely have kids that do not have good worm immunity. .
Coni Ross
 
  
Hard UtterDoes she have fever? Is the udder hot? Does it feel hard and lumpy?
If no fever, I would treat her: 40 mg Lasix, 20mg (5cc) Dexamethasone SQ,
and 10-15cc SQ Penicillin. One dose is often enough, but occasionally it
takes 2 or three doses once a day to get the edema out of that udder. The
Penicillin is because you are giving the Dexamethasone.
  
A D & E vitimine1cc small goats 2cc large goats
I get it from Walco. www.walcoanimalheal thproducts. com
<http://www.walcoani malhealthproduct s.com/> . The product I got is
injectable E, A&D.
  
FOAMING AT THE MOUTH Does he look bloated (huge, round belly) and does he seem uncomfortable? There is a condiditon called "frothy bloat" 
 and it is a medical  emergency that can be fatal. If you think this is what he may have, get some baking soda into him and call a vet ASAP.
Second, is there any possibility he could have been poisoned? Foaming at the mouth can also be a symptom of this.
Also, check his teeth. I have seen this happen with an abscessed or infected tooth as the cause.
Lastly....could your hay have white clover in it? It won't hurt him, but it will cause excessive salivation and will make his mouth look 
foamy when he is chewing his cud. I have found that this is the most common cause around my area.
Edit: Of course there is a slight possibility that he could have rabies as mentioned above, however it is much more 
likely that it is something else. How is he acting otherwise? Does he seem sick?
She had me get the baby Gas-x, 1oz bottle and give him the whole bottle. It
was berry flavor so he sucked it down. The foam went away within minutes. He
was still hanging his head, but drank alot. He was never bloated just had
the foam/gas. I massaged his throat and belly and his throat seemed swollen
or hard. So the vet said bring him in.
Ended up that the muscles in his throat were not working so he could not
swollow anything or keep it down. So all the food was just backing up his
throat. She gave him a Depo shot and a big steriod shot right in the muscle
of his neck. Within 30 min. he was acting normal and he digested everything
in his troat. He then drank alot and was trying to eat everything green on
the ground. We have pinned him up and gave him electrolytes, a high calorie
Liquid diet and a really soupy beet pulp mash. He ate everything she
recommended and wanted more. He is more alert to. We have to give him a
steriod shot for the next 3 days and if he keeps improving she said he will
be ok. If it backs up again she said he should be put down. So far it is
looking good though so keep your fingers crossed for me.
>
> I give 1 oz of mineral oil. NO oil that is digestible. Pepto stops the gas
> formation, and is an antacid.
Mineral Oil   .1.4th cup of mineral oil mixed with a little jello so he can taste
it I would also give him 3 tablespoons of baking soda mixed in 1/3 cup of
water.
> The problem occurs when the food stuff ferments and causes gas.
  
WOODEN TONGUE"wooden tongue". A bacterial infection, usually
Actinomyces, that causes the tissue to be hard so that the tongue does not
work. Ic can also affect the tissues of the mouth and throat. Large doses of
Penicillin is the usual treatment. I would give Polyserum too
  
BoSe and Vitamin EBoSe, it is toxic. Give the kid 400 Units of vitamin E.
selenium does not work without vitamin E, and there is not enough on board
for that selenium to work. Sometimes you will have to give the vitamin E 3-4
days in a row. Prick the capsule, and squirt the oil in the kid's mouth.
BoSe does not have enough vitamin E in it.
  
AMMONIUM CHLORIDE10 lbs per ton of ammonium chloride will work if the calcium phosphorus
 ratio is 2:1. Depending on ingredients, as much as 12-17 lbs per ton is
appropriate. . Keep the water fresh.
Rumensin (monensin ) is recommended at 20 grams/ton of feed.
Do not use Milo in goat feed. It increases the risk of UC>
  
Today & Tomorrow"today" would be better, but use what you have. 
Milk out all you can get from the udder then inject the antibiotic "tomorrow", on tube for each teat.  
Repeat in 24 hours.  Continue on Pen. (once a day for duo-pen or pen g and benzethaine pen) 
(twice a day for just the pen procain g). Treat for 7 days on the penicillin.
 Sounds like she needs some calcium.  If you can't get a vet to do IV Calcium you can give iv solution orally. 
 60-100 cc every 4-6 hours 'til she's up oral calcium.
  
MITESgiving  some Ivermectin. She may have mites / SEVEN DUST dust the goat with it. Sprinkle it on the ground
  
NEOMYCINNeomycin I give 2cc for a small kid, 3 for a larger kid, 4-6 for
yearlings, and 10 for really big goats, once a day for at least 5 days.
Restart the gut with Calf Pac.
  
Lespedezatop-seeded our hay field with 2 lbs. Will Ladino clover, 4 lbs. Cinnamon Reddy Red clover, and 8 lbs. 
Kobe Lespedeza per acre.  Weather permitting (which means rain from time to time
but not during cutting "season")
  
LICE & MITES7 dust - like for fruits and veggies. Just sprinkle it on and rub it in all over. 
Mom can have Ivomec 1% cattle injectable given orally 1cc per 20#'s but I wouldn't give
 ivomec to baby until he was at least 2 mos old. and remember Ivomec is "off label" for goats so 
be careful with a 4H Kid for Quality Assurance purposes and if they Test at the Show.
Witdrawl is usaully 60 days but check with a Vet to be sure and so your Grandson can list it as
Vet OK'd in his 4H project book and on his DUNF form if given within 60 days of the show.
  
BUCKS & DOES CAN 52 days on a buckling and 2 months on a doeling 
BREED AS EARLY So separate them or they will breed
AS 2 MONTHS OLDDoes should be 1 year at the earlist and 100#
I had a 3 month old doe bred by her 3 month old brother. 
She was given lute in 11 days. Did she take? I don't know for sure. She had bloody drainage that day.
I took my bucks over to have them collected July 4th. They were born on Feb 13 and 20th.
 They had live wigglies but not enough to freeze for AI or flush AI. One did cover a doe on July 6th that took.
BAM!BAM! was born 4/19/08 and bred his 1st doe on 8/25/08. She delivered triplet bucks on 1/19/09.
Dawn(Tx)
  
Cavalry 9Use Calvary 9 and not Covexin 8 for? 1 cc dose for initial and 1 cc for booster three weeks later
1 cc initial on kids today as we wean them .
Calvary 9I have had good results with Calvary 9.
On another note, there have been some losses from Clostridium type B, which
is not covered by Covexin 8.
I suggest we use BCD antitoxin from now on to coverall bases if we have a
kid that is sick.

 

Sudden death can also be from one of the Pasturella pneumonias, Coni

Fullblood

Purebred

 

is 100%.

 Full Blood is 100% -  ONLY way to get Full Blood is breeding a Full Blood Buck to a Full Blood Doe.
 
Pure Bred.  The way to get purebred is - ONE parent (usually the buck) has to be a FULL BLOOD.  The other parent for doe kids must be at least 88% so that her kid is 94%.
  On buck kids, the dam should be at lelast 94% so the buck kid is 97%.
on a doe is 93.7%-99.9% and on a buck it is 96.8%-99.9%.

  
  
CIDR'sordered from Pacific Vet Supply several years ago. 
They are in Australia and I shared a big order with several breeders so it made them cost about $4. each.
I dont know if that is still available. I found them on the internet.
Lynda
What CIDR's do….  CIDR's look like the letter T with a string coming out of the bottom part of the T. 
According to the package I have:
Eazi Breed CIDR sheep and goat insert.
Intravaginal progesterone release device for controlling breeding in sheep and goats.
Each device contains 0.3grams of progesterone
Indications:
Control of the estrus cycle in does and ewes to enable: 
concentrated AI or natural mating and therefore a concentrated kidding/lambing pattern, 
embryo collection and transfer programs, advanced or out of season breeding.
Insert (in goats) for 17 to 19 days.
Dawn(Tx)
  
DNA TESTINGDNA
testing done at U.C. Davis in California.The address is
Veterinary genetics Laboratory
School of Veterinary Medicine
One Shields Avenue
Davis, CA 95616-8744
530-752-3556
You can send in a hair sample from the kids and the sires. The best
places to get hair samples with follicles is the tail and around the top of the
hoof.
The cost is $40.00 per sample. It normally takes 5 days from the day they
receive the samples. They normally will email the results and then mail a
copy.